who had the first 'punk scene'?

The question of who had the first 'punk' scene, either new york or London has been rolling along for years now, like a dung beetles ball of pooh let loose and on a down hill roll.
with boring regulatory we have had the argument that the Americans say "we had records coming from the cgbg's bands when you in the UK were still forming bands" and the British would reply "well your scene was happening only in one city and one single club, and besides the new york bands were just old hippies reciting poetry and perpetually re-writing the velvets song 'heroin"... and so on.
this UK/US 'who was first' to and fro'ing is just a lazy myth made up by idle wankers in the music press and to a tiny extent was encouraged by labels to help boost sales. but the truth is that the attitude to dinosaur rock and their 'lifestyles went far beyond cbgb's and the Roxy.
the habits of the 'stars' of the time, dining with royalty and the privileged classes (not to mention their way of wallowing in the public waste of money they had made by selling their music to the often young and poor fans who had spent their weeks pocket money on their 'stars' new record only to see it wasted was making them hated hated in many places, if they charged a cheap price it may of been different but they didnt.
for instance, before the Ramones and co were playing regularly in the Bowery, Australia had radio birdman and the mini scene that was round them (sadly we will never know if they caused many bands to form as there are no recordings available i know of, so i reckon its a no!) but by 1976 there was definatly an emerging scene coming from Australia (new zealand was to follow a few years behind and produced the great lp called 'ak79' which was a compilation of bands from the last few years who were part of the new wave -as opposed to being 'new wave' if you know what i mean), the saints single 'I'm stranded' released in aumumn 1976 being a good example of this. but oz wasn't the only place, nor was it known for its established scene with its own bands that went back some years.
the place for that? France. to be more precise, Paris. in Paris there had been a scene going since the early 1970's (and Mclaren was well aware of this scene and its influences as can be seen by his clothing copies of originals that can be seen on photos of Parisians from before he had his shop).
the Paris scene's look was black drainpipe trousers or ripped baggies, with slogans painted down the legs lenght and stenciled onto shirts (like the slogans on the legs of the boiler suits worn by the clash on their 'white riot' single cover or the shirts Mclaren later sold in his shops) spiky hair was not unknown, but then again, rod Stewart had spikey hair in the mid 1970's and so did half of the rolling stones, so i will go no further with that one! the look was finished off with a leather jacket and black wrap round shades, like a neater fore-runner of the johnny thunders look. they had even been called 'punks' by French music journo's who were possobly thiinking back and comparing them with the 1960's garage punk scene.
musically they were into bands such as the stooges and the doors, MC5, the new york dolls, the flaming groovies and of course the velvet underground (and ironically radio birdman), they even had their own record label called 'skydog' to help with getting hard to find records by reissuing LP's and singles for those who wanted them, there was even a record shop where people could go to to find the music of these bands (and their 'skydog' re-issues), sadly i cant remember the shops name. it also provides a good reason why the first ever 'punk' festival was held in France in august 1976 at a bull ring in a place called Mont De Marsan and not London or new york, it does make sense, seeing how the french had had the longest 'punk' scene (yes there were differences but there was a world of difference between new York's scene and London's yet they all fall under the same moniker of 'punk', and when Patti smith was first heard over there she made thousands of new fans overnight, as did nick lowe, television, dr feelgood, eddie and the hot rods and then the first damned and pistols singles (which came out so near to eachother that they were probally shipped over on the same boat).
i know most people will read this and have a reaction that verges on laughter at what ive written but you only have to see pictures of chaps like Guy debord and check out any articles they can find on the subject, the only reason i know is because ive read about recent french history post the student uprisings of the late 60's, plus ive spoken to french people who were familiar with the scene and the time, ive even been shown the famous record shop which by that time had sadly been turned into a music chainstore, but it still attracted 'punk' graffiti as if it a place worth remembering in the heart of the french punks, what with them getting emotional and sentimemtal at the drop of a hat, and as for their habit of weeping at every oppotunity well, it takes all sorts (only joking).
VIVE LE ENENTE CORDIAL.