Tuesday, 19 June 2007

an apology for slavery? not in my name, and not yours either probally

Before i start i should make it clear that i think that slavery was (and still is in many places) disgusting and is evil in all its forms, it always has been and it always will.
but the reason i am against tony fucking Blair apologising for slavery on 'behalf of the British people' is for more than one reason, the obvious being i have never owned one or been involved in the trade in human life.
my reasons for objecting go far deeper. for a start none of my family (on either side) was never rich enough to own one, my great granny was a travelling Roma child that was left on the outer staircase of a workhouse because her family had not the means to feed her, she married an Irish immigrants son, who gave birth to my gran who married a Scots man of poor decent who had spent a period of his life as a tramp or 'gentleman of the road' (in the old fashion sense of the term), a man who walked all round England in search of work (and not the begging piss head kind),they had my mum who married the son of Irish immigrants who were trying to build a life that didn't involve sleeping with the pigs, they moved to England and had to sleep four to room in a nasty hovel of a flat instead, much of my family can only be traced back 150 years as before that they were too poor to pay to have their children registered at birth, and were up until the industrial revolution tied to the land and subject to the lord of the manner who affectedly owned them, having the power to allow or not the marriage of his serfs, they were not even allowed to leave the land to look for work elsewhere.
but how do i know this if my family wasn't registered? i know because their names don't appear on any courtly rolls or have any connection with wealth, Parliament or royalty at any time. and the majority of people of the British islands were also treated the same way, once the industrial revolution was in full swing the rich of this land knew that thousands were dieing of hunger but did nothing, the people of Britain were virtual slaves themselves, working from the age of five in mills that killed them before their 40th birthday.
And a very important point is the percentage of people who were actually involved or profited from slavery, if it went into double numbers i would be very surprised (i think the actual amount was about 4 or 5%). the ones who need to apologise are the lords and ladies who earned their titles via the slave trade and the money it brought into the hands of a few, those and the companies that ran the slavery business, many still trade today. its them who need to apologise. and while we are at it i think that if the 'sorry for the past' game is being played why have the people of Rome not said sorry for the ethnic cleansing of the Celtic culture and way of life? Julius Cesar wrote boastfully that he had killed a million and enslaved a million, and what about the Greeks, they owned slaves, where is their apology? and where did the slaves 'we' traded in come from? did we pick them up off the beach like drift wood? no, we paid African slave dealers for them, where is the African apology? the Moorish apology? what about the Persian apology? the saxon apology? the Muslim apology? the list goes on.
there isn't one (an apology) because they don't need to do it (apart from in Africa where it still exists- and amnesty international have said that it still happens in parts of the middle east but that is not proved).
we are not responsible for the sins of others comitted hundreds of years ago, in Europe the same feudal model of peasants tied to their owners lands was the norm, in effect the poor of Europe were slaves to the rich few barons and lords, and of course kings and queens, even the church had 'tied' servants and was keen to get their hands on the slaves and Christianise them, that doesn't sound very holy to me!
so in finishing i would like to say that I'm very sorry slavery has happened in the past but the hands of my family are clean, as are the majority of the nations hands, if you want to find a slave owner then go to London where statues of the fuckers were put up and they can be found in the family names that sat in the house of lords.
tarring us all with the slave owning brush is dumb revisionist history that should be put right. the real guilty gits that still wallow in the money their forefathers made are the ones who should say sorry. not the average person.
i would like to thank zero hour for letting me put my opinion across. dave.
(whoa, that was a hot topic but zero hour is comitted to free speach as long as it isnt inciting voilence against others so we let dave have his say)

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